Jimbo Paris Show #45- Transform your Life with Hypnotherapy (Juanita Smith)

Hi, I'm Jimbo Paris, and you're listening to the Jimbo Paris show. So today, we have Juanita Smith, a Clinical Hypnotherapist. Let's see what she has to say. Hello, how you doing today?

Hi, Jimbo. I'm really well, thank you. How are you?

Good, good. So let's get right to it. So can you give me a brief summary of who you are, what you're about? And what your messages and perhaps, about how you got into being a hypnotherapist to begin with?

Yes, sure. Sure. So, so yes. So obviously, I'm a hypnotherapist, and I'm in Sydney, I have two clinics here in Sydney, two very busy clinics. And I also teach and mentor hypnotherapists, to do what I do. And people come to me for anything for anything they want to change in their life. But definitely my niche is trauma and addiction. So that just came about that just kind of happened, really because I've just started to see a lot of people for all sorts of unwanted habits like cigarettes and drugs and alcohol and gambling and even nail biting anything. And obviously sometimes when you're working with those things, you have to work with a deeper trauma. So that through it sort of became a niche, the trauma and the addiction. So much. So I work for so many people, and I teach now teach my five step system to hypnotherapist, and I also wrote a book about it as well. Is it a habit or an addiction? Yeah, yeah. So that's me. That's what I do.

That's great. So you're an author as well. So can we get into a bit about what actually is hypnotherapy? I don't know what hypnotherapy is. Can you kind

Okay, sure. Yeah. All right.

Yeah. Could you possibly explain that a bit?

Yeah, absolutely. And a lot of people are the same. It's amazing how, how little people know about hypnosis and hypnotherapy. And it is actually an ancient modality that's been around for thousands and thousands of years. So, you know, thousands of years ago, you know, this, this record of hypnosis, you know, on the an Ancient Greece and Ancient Egypt and ancient India, and, um, you know, and you know, in Greece, they used to take their sick, these called Sleep temples, and they would have them and they'd be in a half awake, half asleep state. And they would just whisper suggestions through them, which is basically they were just giving them hypnosis to make them Well, again, or whatever was going on with them, whatever they needed, maybe it was not physical health, maybe it was mental health. And so hypnosis accesses the powerful processes of the unconscious mind to facilitate change and healing. So most people that have things that they want to change in their life that they're not happy with, you know, I don't, I haven't met anyone yet who hasn't got something that they want to change in their life. So whether it's unwanted habits, or they have goals, they have aspirations, what's going on with people is that everything that's going on with them is part of their unconscious programming. And most is so powerful because we work directly with the unconscious programming. And that's why people get such a fast and awesome result, working with me, because rather than just trying to work with the very small, conscious mind, which is about 5% of your mind, you're working directly with the unconscious, which is 95% of your mind, and thousands and thousands of times more powerful. So people come to me for all sorts of things, you know, I'll get someone coming to me who's been trying to quit smoking for sometimes decades. They hate it. They don't want to smoke this smoking 40 a day they've tried cold turkey, they've tried, medication have tried petrol, they've tried everything. And even though they hate it, and they don't want to do it, and it's destroying their health, maybe they've got emphysema, they've got cancer, they can't stop, because it's out of their conscious control. It's an unconscious behavior. And so, literally in one session with me, we can just work we can break that unconscious habit, and they will cut a nonsmoker and that has a 97% success rate. So I've worked with thousands of smokers and it'd be very unusual for someone to come to me and and not quit. So that's one example. But you know, when people come to me for anything like weight loss or anxiety or depression, or childhood trauma, or lack of confidence, or phobias, whatever they're coming to me for, we can really make very effective changes in the short term very quickly for a long term result because we work directly with the unconscious.

Now that's really interesting concerning how hypnotism can be used to deal with things such as smoking, and even the Greeks used to do this in order to I help people as well. Yeah. I'm thinking though, how does this all work? So what is the underlying system? Of how this works? Is this more placebo?

Absolutely not? Absolutely not. Yeah, I've worked with literally thousands of clients. And it's definitely not a placebo effect. There's a lot of scientific. There's a lot of, you know, scientific research done and proof and studies to show that it's, it's very, very real. Because you know, where your where is your mind. So most people know, they've got like, if you ask someone, have you got a mind? They'll say, Well, yes. And then you ask people, well, where is your mind, and most people don't really know, they pointed their head, but your mind does in every cell of your body, your your, your mind, and the mind. And body connection is very, very, very powerful. And so I'm not actually sure where I'm going with it. To be honest, with a lot of people that come to me, most people that come to me are very, very skeptical. And they've literally they've tried everything to try and change what's going on with them. Often, they've tried years and years and years of therapy. And they're very skeptical, they're not coming in thinking, Okay, this is really going to work for me, they're very uncertain, because they've got the fear of failure. And because they've tried so many things in the class that haven't worked. So they're always very pleasantly surprised that they get a result very, very quickly. Yeah. So it's just very, I mean, it's really hard to explain besides what I've just said, like the fact that basically 95% of our minds is unconscious. So when people are born, they've got, they've got no, they come with a clean slate, and from the moment they're born, they're downloading the world around them. And children are actually in hypnosis from the ages zero to seven. And they're in they're in a constant state of hypnosis, okay. And they're downloading, it's called the imprint years. So they're downloading the world around them in those first seven years. So you know, the way their mother treats them, the school, they went to the way their siblings, the TV, they watched, it makes up their programming. So if a child is in a very positive environment, that's going to be very beneficial to them, as they grow older, because that programming becomes their personality. So when someone you know, we have however, people's morals, values, perspective of things, how they react to things, their their beliefs, everything, it all comes from the programming and the programming comes from past memories and experiences and everything you have learnt. And that's all stored at the unconscious mind. And once things are stored on the unconscious mind, it's very, very hard for those things to shift. And so every day, you're downloading into your unconscious mind anyway, and, and so if you think about, you know, over your life, everything you've learned, okay, so you learned how to walk. And it was very difficult to start with, and you practiced, and practiced and practiced, and it became easier and easier, and then you're doing it automatically. And then you learn to tie your shoelaces, it was very difficult to start with, and you've practiced and practice and now you can draw on autopilot. And as I said, when you learn to ride a bike, I mean, you meant to drive a car, you practice with mental these things consciously. And they become automatic and your unconscious mind, your body remembers them. So you can be driving a car, you can have engrossed conversation with someone in the passenger seat next to you. And count doesn't stop. You're not having to sort of manually consciously remember how to do it and make sure you're doing it, you're just driving on autopilot. Your body knows how to drive it. It's just like, if you go to the ATM to get money out, you might not remember your PIN number you don't, I can't remember it, tell someone, but you go and your body remembers that. Because your unconscious mind is in your body. It's that mind, I'll probably talk a lot more about the mind body connection over this chat. So. So our unconscious mind is all past memories, or past experiences. And every happy moment, every sad moment, it's everything we've learned everything we've practiced. So when you practice and learn things, you do them over and over and over, they become very habitual, and they come automatic, and they're very, and once things are stored in the unconscious mind, it's it's very rigid, and it's very, very hard to shift. So when people have these unwanted habits like smoking or nail biting, or eating chocolate every day, and they can't stop, or whatever it is, it's very difficult to change that because it was deeply ingrained in their unconscious. It's just like, I work with a lot of people to lose weight, which is basically they just have to change their eating habits. And most people that come to eat to lose weight, I have tried many, many, many different programs in the past to try and lose weight. And sometimes they get a little away and then they then they lose but away they might even get to their goal. But what happens as soon as they do that, they go back to their old eating habits, and they put all the weight back on. And so they're very frustrated. It's actually a very small percentage of people that actually change their eating habits for good and have that new body shape. Most people just tend to spend their whole life going around in circles because the patterning for what they eat is so deeply in range from over their whole life. So nice is is very good for that. Because we, instead of just trying to get someone to do something consciously, it's not just some app just to consciously go, Okay, I'm not going to eat chocolate anymore, I'm not going to eat chocolate anymore. They can't compete with it unconscious programming, which is 95% of their mind and going, what are you doing, you need to eat chocolate. And so they just it's kind of willpower. And it's very hard. And they just sort of give up, they give up and they go and eat the chocolate. And they have the special all the time. So you haven't a battle between your conscious and unconscious. But we're these great is anything that's out of alignment between your conscious and unconscious, it can make those changes on an unconscious level, so that it's an alignment. And so if someone comes to me and they've battled to overcome chocolate for the last 20 years, we can actually change that hardwired program and their unconscious so that they no longer want chocolate. It's just not even on isn't it's not even on their radar, they're just not thinking about that it might seem like I have a little bit but they're like you that was nice. But you know, it's just doesn't mean anything anymore. Because we've changed that putting them on an unconscious level. So I hope that all makes sense. It's such a big thing to try and explain that it kind of it can go off in so many different directions. And you so many different examples.

I understand that a lot better now. Because hypnotism from what I'm getting is something that mainly is focused on impacting the subconscious mind, which is about 95% of us. And how has hypnotism personally impacted you? Because you've talked a lot about it impacting other people?

Sure. Yes. So, um, well, I have definitely had a great transformation in my life, from using different modalities to work on myself and progress in my life. And the therapy definitely was a standout to help that transformation by far, which is probably why I chose that as a modality to serve people. And so with my background, I actually grew up surrounded by trauma and addiction. So my mother, she was a victim of the New Zealand social welfare system. And in the in the 1940s in the 1950s. And she was mentally physically and sexually abused her and her two sisters, and they were in foster care from a very young age. And so by the time I come along, my mother was in the throes of a mental breakdown, she was not stable, and she was in her 30s By the time I came along, but in her late teens, early 20s, she had had shock treatment and that absolutely destroyed her she would really was never the same. And so I was very as a result of that I was very neglected as a newborn baby, not only had she smoked about 40 cigarettes a day when she was pregnant with me and drink copious amounts of coffee, where I couldn't even sleep. That was her coping mechanism that that sort of habit addiction is just self medicating. It's just like a soothing thing people do because they need to make an unwanted need. And that's what my mother was doing, just trying to find to cope with her addiction with life, and relying on things that became very addictive to her coffee and cigarettes and also prescription medication. So through the neglect of her not really being with it and being passed out on prescription medication, I actually became very sick. And she wasn't aware of that. So I actually lost all my hearing in one year, and partial hearing in the other ear. And I was taking my brother and I would take him off our mother when I was two and we will put in the home and then we're separated. And I did actually end up living with different family members while I was growing up. Surrounded by all this addiction, trauma, everyone was very, very traumatized and addicted to something. And so that's generational trauma going from generation to generation, I could have easily gone down that path. I was at a crossroads in my early 20s. And I could have gone down the path of that addiction and stayed with my trauma or but what I chose was another path I chose the path of breaking free personal development growing as a person spiritual growth. And I broke away from that. So when I work with and part of during that always been working myself, obviously hypnotherapy was a very effective way to do that because it really is a shortcut to change. Four sessions of hypnotherapy is equivalent to 400 sessions with a counselor basically. And so that that was what drew me to it because I found it so powerful. And so when I work with my clients, and I come from this place of understanding and compassion, because I really understand where they're coming from and with some of the, you know, some, you know, horrendous things that my clients have been through, and that's just from my own experiences. Well, that was a very that was very tough story. You know, Because I've tried many different modalities? Yeah, so. But I mean, the thing is, I have two very busy clinics in Sydney. And I also teach a lot of hypnotherapist to do what I do. And it's, it's very, it would be very unusual for someone to come to me and not get a result. It's highly, highly effective. So I'll get someone coming to me who has suffered from anxiety for say that, you know, decades, maybe 30 years, and they've tried everything they can. They've tried, they've tried so many things over the last decade, and all they've managed to come up with is managing their anxiety, and taking medication to numb put a bandaid over it. So a lot of people coming to me really think that they can't overcome and eliminate anxiety, they think they've just got to manage it and live with it. And that's not true. And so by the time people see me for the fourth session, they usually saying oh my gosh, the anxiety is gone. I can't believe it, it's just gone. Because it was just a program in the unconscious, and we've actually eliminated it. And so what anxiety and panic attacks simply are as a lot of suppressed fear that's been suppressed and suppressed and press through past memories and experiences. When someone is suffering from panic attacks, which I don't know if you're very familiar with panic attacks jimbo, but it's very, what's the word? It's very debilitating, what's the word I was trying to think of. Because you're gonna get, you can get a panic attack anywhere, and it's completely out of your control sermon, but anything in your unconscious is out of your control consciously, you know, you're safe consciously, you don't want to have a panic attack. But you have got no control over it, you just you know, your heart's racing, your palms are sweating, you're hyperventilating. And you've got no control over that. Why is that happening? Well, first, one thing is that your unconscious mind thinks you're in danger. So it's trying to warn you, you're in danger, and it wants to keep you safe and look after you because that's the prime directive of the unconscious, that it's a shift as well mechanism. And it's also anxiety itself and panic attacks as a lot of suppressed also a lot of suppressed fear as well. So it's a little bit like, you know, having a fire alarm. And every time you make choices, the fire alarm goes off. So you're panicking and getting anxious that the panic attacks are going you've definitely been through a lot of different things, it off. And appropriately. Anxiety can be a good thing used appropriately. Because it is it puts you know having a bit of fear and anxiety and getting the adrenaline running is putting you into survival mode when needed. Okay, so that comes from our caveman brain to look after ourselves and protect ourselves, you could be walking down a dark alley and hear footsteps behind you. And of course, you want to be feeling a bit of anxiety and, and you know, be on alert to protect yourself and look after yourself. But if it's going off inappropriately for no reason, that that's when it becomes a disorder. And it's an issue. And it's very, very prevalent. You know, many, many people suffer, you suffer from varying degrees of anxiety right up to the extreme panic attacks. And it's extremely debilitating for their life. Like, you know, it impacts their confidence and it impacts their their sleep, their motivation, their productivity, their happiness, their peace, it impacts everything. And so it's very prevalent. But hypnosis actually can release that weight you can chain and it's and you're feeling and United said before about the body mind connection, you when you're seems from all of those you know, hypnotism really has had a anxious. It's not just thoughts that comes from your thoughts, of course, but it's actually felt through your body. So when certain impact on you, per se. But how did you know that was what you know, what are some of the physical symptoms when the best solution? For you in the sense? you're anxious, there's many physical symptoms when you mentioned. So once again, that mind body connection. Okay. So hypnosis changes the body's response to that situation. And so and so what people find is after they work with me, we release that fear we released the anxiety sometimes is a birthplace root cause issue that we need to work on because it came from somewhere. And we change that reaction to different situations, so that people just find I used to be very anxious when I did this, but now I'm just feeling calm. Or in some cases, anxiety comes and varying ways or some people have, you know, constant underlying anxiety and it just dissipates. So rather than being on high alert all the time, so people with anxiety, they're either situational High, Low or just constant high mood. So all their energy is going into this into the sphere mode, and the body's just in constant fear. So I'm hypnotherapy is very healing people. I've worked with tons of people from anxiety, and they noticed that she noticed a shift after one session, they very rarely need more than four sessions.

So you bring about a lot of interesting points here. And I have a multitude of questions coming up. So I was thinking, first of all, if anxiety is something that comes about from a certain choice you make is basically anxiety linked to something like a phobia? And then another question I have is how long does hypnotism actually take? And then the third one is, do all types of hypnotism get performed the same way? Do you just perform the same action with them? Or do different people require different things? So which of these three questions Do you want to hit first?

Okay

I think I want to go with the phobias. First, I think the easiest one, since it's the closest to what you were just talking about?

Sure. So So phobia is a fear. So the root of anxiety, panic attacks and phobias is all the same. It's the base emotion is fear, okay? So with a phobia is that people have a fear to a particular thing. They might be all right, every every other aspect of their life. But they've got a fear to something in particular, like public speaking or going on a plane, or whatever it is. And so they might not suffer from anxiety. Besides that, there might be no other anxiety there. It's just this phobia and, and it usually comes from some past traumatic experiences associated with that. So for example, I had a client and he came to me that had a phobia of rats. And so we were able to establish that he had three memories where he felt very traumatized from an interaction with a rat. One was he lived in a and he was grew up in Eastern Europe on a farm. And when he was a boy, another boy dangled this big, dead rat in a space in mass, massive rex, and he dangled one on his face, so and that freaked him out. And so his unconscious mind thought, Okay, you're in danger with this thing here. So and the other experience was when one of the reps on the farm went up his trouser leg and he had to push it down with a stick. And so then the third experience was working here in Sydney and painting and where he was painting at night time, it was teeming with rats. And so, so every time his unconscious mind when he's around to read, its unconscious mind is like, Okay, you're in danger, because that's what he's programmed on an unconscious level. So it was just a matter of one session with him, going back to those past memories, and changing the reaction to them through hypnosis. And so then after the session, he was fine. He had a new, you had a new association, Tourette's, he no longer had that fear.

Very good. So you kind of hit the anxiety at phobia question and a little bit of the how you handle it. But I'm also wondering, how long do most of these patients take to kind of change the subconscious mind because how I see it with a lot of people without hypnotism? You know, it is possible, but it will take longer, but again, I'm not the hypnotist here. How quickly? Do you think hypnotism can work? Do you think hypnotism in general kind of works the fastest when it comes to altering the subconscious mind? What do you say?

Sure, I think it definitely does vary depending a hypnotherapist and how they've been trained. And the techniques, they use an approach they use. There are some therapists out there who have a more generic approach. So I do sometimes get people coming to me, say, for example, let's talk about quit smoking, where they didn't really get the result with another hypnotherapist, or they had to go for six sessions, and they didn't really get a result. Or if you do a group session, once again, it's going to be very general. But my approach is, you know, I specifically tailored to the individual ways, very cutting edge and powerful techniques. And plus it's very tailored to the individual. So, so if someone comes to me for quit smoking is usually one session at once. And one I might get someone who needs a second session, but usually one. And so that was that plus because of the approach or the techniques and how it's been put together. And it's been tried and tested and formulated over 10 years now. Now smoking treatment, and it's a 97% success rate as well. It's really good. So if someone so yeah, so I think it depends on the the the tools and the techniques and the processes that a therapist will use and as and how long they it takes to get through to the end result. And obviously one on one is going to be a lot more powerful and effective than a group session. Because a group session you have to generalize it. So if people come to me for just opinions, people don't need tons of sessions. Most people that come to me I go on my fourth digital transformation program. And so we basically, you know, they're coming to me because they're a bit anxious or a bit depressed or they've got no confidence or they've had these past events happen that's really impacted them, or are they feeling a bit flat? Are they feeling motivated. And so I call it the transformation program, and we peel away the layers. It's like peeling away the layers of an onion, sometimes we have to address past trauma, some past trauma gets really impacted them and heal it. So it's very healing as well. But two people meet need four sessions, sometimes someone might need less than four sessions, sometimes people will need more than four sessions. But that's a ballpark figure, you don't need tons and tons and tons of sessions for a change.

Let's kind of get more into your book now, you know, specifically tailored to who who is that tailor to really,

it's for, it's for therapists. So in fact, a lot of hypnotherapist don't actually know how to do quit smoking, they've never been trained in it. It's not their niche as my speciality area. I'm a specialist quit smoking hypnotherapist. And so but but therapists are gonna get asked all the time, can you help your smoking, and some of them haven't got a good treatment, and some of them, don't do it, because they're not sure how to do it. So this book was for a hypnotherapist who want to be able to work with clients to quit smoking, and to quit other unwanted habits and addictions. And it lays out my five step system, and it's also for people who are struggling with addiction. So just the five step, just, you know, just sort of like them to understand what's going on. Because when people come and see me, they have no idea why they just can't quit smoking, or why they can't stop gambling, or whatever it is, they just really are at a loss of why it's such a huge issue for them. And they're so surprised that they can overcome that so quickly with this treatment with the treatments that I offer. So that score. So that's for people looking for a solution, and therapists looking for better results with their clients.

That is quite unique. I've never really heard of a book that was designed for the person who wrote the book, people like them, and also for people looking for service as well. That's quite interesting.

Personal story. It's also got my personal memoir of, of my story and why I'm doing what I'm doing today, and a little bit of my mother's story and my Auntie's story. So it's quite, it's quite an interesting read. And yes, we've got lots of little exciting case studies. And also I've interviewed lots of experts. So you know, interviewing lots of experts in their field on how they approach and deal with treatment. When you do that you become the expert of interviewing the experts.

And speaking of these hypnosis books, I've seen a few and they tend to advocate things such as self hypnosis, and I know all hypnotist are different. How do you feel about self hypnosis? Do you think it's better? Or do you think? What do you think personally?

I think self hypnosis is great. I actually run monthly webinars, and I teach people how to do self hypnosis. And I think it's fantastic. I mean, hypnosis is just like meditation. So going into it. So hypnosis is just a natural state. It's just a natural trance state that you go into all the time. So you go into that, that trance state, when you're meditating, when you're daydreaming, when you're driving, you're driving tracks, when you're engrossed in a good move of new growth and a good book, you've got the different I don't know if you're familiar with the different states, the different brainwave states, and you've got theta, and then alpha, and then theta and delta. So when you're wide awake and alert and focused, and on task, you're in beta. And when you're asleep, you're on Delta, and in between, you're an alpha, alpha and theta. And so if you were in if you're wide awake, and in beta all day, you'd have a heart attack. So you go in and out of trance throughout the day. And as I said before, like a child is actually just in a state of hypnosis. They're actually in an alpha state until the age of seven. So that's why everything is wide open, and everything they say is just everything around the whole world around them is just really imprinted into their unconscious. So so it's just um, so it's just a very natural state that you go into all the time. And you could call you could call hypnotherapy hypnosis. You could call it guided visualization, where you could use another word for it. And so I'm so if someone does hypnosis, self hypnosis, they're basically just putting themselves into meditation, but they're also putting suggestions and either they could record themselves and listen to recording or they could just have a little process in their mind of, of doing a little self hypnosis like, um, you know, and I lay out the steps for that in my webinar, but just putting in those suggestions of being positive and in the present and using visualization as well, which is very, very important, because visualization is very effective, too. It is actually scientifically proven very effective to manifest what you want to manifest in your life if it's done properly. And so yes, so I teach that and I think it's very beneficial. So if someone's already got a meditation practice, and they add in suggestions and visualize what they want, while feeling it as well, that's going to be just an extra bonus with that. But I think when you come when you go and see a hypnotherapist, it does take it to a different level. self hypnosis is more like a practice, just like meditation, it's something you want to practice, and you'll get the change over time, where if someone comes to me, we can really what the tools and the techniques and everything I'm doing and putting all together, which really you need the experience and training to do that. It just, it's 10,000 times more powerful.

So no self hypnosis is more like it's a very convenient form of guided meditations.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, a little bit different in the fact that when I teach someone to do hypnosis, either they can do the recording, or they can just lay it out in their mind have a plan and later on when they want an intention. First, they set an intention, just one thing at a time, like maybe it's to lose weight. And then the proper way to do the self hypnosis is to do the steps so you get yourself into Jordan duction so I'm inductions to relax your mind let go of any thoughts what you do and meditation really just have that introduction and have that physical body relaxation, etc, etc. And then you do the deep now. So you know, either um, you can, you know, you can count down sometimes people go down step, so they might go down a lift, or they might just float down. And that just takes you deeper into trance. Or you can go up you can ascend deeper if you want to go up the stairs to go deeper, believe it or not. And then usually your your suggestions and your visualization. And then you can do your reorientation and camped back to where you started to come back to the present moment. So it's a little bit of a as a lay out, but it's it's pretty much. You know, when people come to me, they're like, I've never been hypnotized. What's it's like, and I say, have you tried meditation? They're like, Yeah, and I'm like, it'll just be the same as that.

And what type of advice would you give to someone else that would like to go down the Hypno hypnotherapy route?

Yeah, um, so look, it's a very, when I train students to come up with therapists, it's actually the most lucrative natural therapy industry out there. Some hypnotherapist make more than doctors, and it's sought after. So if I look at my students that just trained during this year, they are booming. I've got I've got one graduate and she trained with me in March. And it's a, it's an apprenticeship as well. So you know, you do your training, but then the learning starts when you're in practice as well. And but with with the, it's too much to get on to today, but with our processes and our techniques and our tools and everything we lay out at the academy that I train it, people can really learn very quickly and have that support and have everything they need. So they can actually just start working with clients with mentoring and support as well of course, but you know, one student I can think of and match. She's She just told me a couple of weeks ago that she's already worked with 150 students, she said to cut back on her day job, because she was you know, she was working full time and she started now she's she's probably going to be finished with her job very soon. And she's making more money during her hypnotherapy practice than she is and her full time job as well. And so that that's a normal story. Like all my graduates are, you know, the Z booking and clients calling me all the time for mentoring. And it because it's really, really sought after I've got some some of our graduates just decide they just want to be quit smoking specialists. And so they set them up. And because of our treatment, they get known as the top hypnotherapist in the area. And then some people have already had modalities in the natural therapy industry. But once they've added hypnotherapy to their talk and and promoted themselves, the therapist the phone starts to ring, because people are looking for what we offer. So if there's a lot of benefits, it's very lucrative and there's no you know, it's no point you're going to run a business. If you're struggling financially and your business it's really not going to work. So as you make a very good income so financially successful, you get to choose your own hours, as well. You get to choose how many clients you want to work with. And your clients are going to get results very, very quickly. And so then your business grows exponentially because they get good results. So that's That's what happened with me, I grew so quickly with my business, all my businesses referral. And so I'll get people, I'll get a few people calling a day, because so I'm so stormy, three years ago for smoking, and they want to book in with me. And so I don't have to advertise or promote, promote my clinics, it's just all word of mouth. And I also get a lot of doctors, heart specialists, counselors, psychologists, and other medical practitioners actually refer their clients and their patients to me, as well, because they've had other patients or clients get great results with me. So. So it really is win win win. And it you know, it's, it's really has a ripple effect more than I probably can ever imagine. Because it's going for me, I'm doing something with people that's highly effective, and they get the results. And that's really exciting. I wouldn't be in this, if people were calling me and saying, I didn't get a result, I'd be so down, I probably wouldn't want to do it anymore. I think this doesn't work. But it's very unusual for someone to come to me not to get a result. So it's a win win win. For me, it's a wonderful business where I can choose my now let's have that life, that life, work balance. And a great and you know, a lot of financial success as well. And it's win win win for my clients, because they're getting these amazing life changing benefits and transformations in your life. And it impacts everyone around them. It impacts their family, their friends, their their their work, colleagues, everything. So it really has this ripple effect going out. So it's very rewarding.

Interested in the business side of things now. So how did you convert your hypnotism skills into something that can then be a profitable service? Because you say, you know, it's very lucrative?

Yes.

How does one make it lucrative?

Look, look, I my niche. So any business, any business owner listening to this, if you want to build your business, you want to go deep and narrow. And so that's what I did. When I first started. I just promoted quit smoking, I didn't promote the weight loss program I do, or the virtual gastric band program I do or the panic attack program. I don't I don't promote any of that I just advertise quit smoking. And so instead of going wide in general, I was sending a message out that people were looking for smokers and looking for a solution. They are desperate to be trying to quit for years, nothing works. It's been $20 a week, they're losing their house, their family hates it, it's causing so much. So many problems on their life, they feel sick, all that sort of stuff. And so when they're getting a message that's been promoted saying to our session, lifetime guarantee 97% success rate, then they're like, Oh, my God, this could be a great solution for me. And so it didn't take long to build my practice. That's why I've got two practices. I actually had three at one point, because I was so busy, I actually even hired a therapist to work for me, and took my treatment because I was just getting too many bookings. And so I've scaled backing up because I do a lot of training and mentoring now. And that and so you know, people would quit with me, they're like, Oh, my God, I can't believe it. I've walked out I don't, I don't want a cigarette. That's like magic to them. They think your God. And that was the way it was from the word guide because I was taught this treatment by my mentor. I didn't create this actual hypnotherapy treatment for quit smoking, it was taught to me by my mentor, so everything I've learned is from my mentor, and now I pass it on to my, my students. And so, so that just it just, um, so I've advertised and promoted the quit smoking for a while there and it just grew so exponentially. And now that's the foundation to my business. And you know, quit smoking client, they're spending$10,000 a year on smoking, they're training with me for two hours cost $600. So for therapists or for myself starting a practice, not only am I helping them save 1000s of dollars, but I'm making a good income to have I saved for a day that's trying to have $1,000 in one day. So so that's how it's beneficial for someone looking to do something for themselves that really works that helps people that helps themselves financially lifestyle, great Korea. And so when people call now my search, I'm I can usually I can track them back to someone that I saw years ago for quit smoking

Over some of the challenges and obstacles, in a sense from building your business, per se. And what are some of these things that you've learned that you now teach to maybe your students? Because the first thing that comes to for me is there's definitely a few common misconceptions with hypnotism. You know, when you picture a guy with a lab coat shaking in front of your face,

Yes. Now, what's the real thing 50 years ago, so that's how they used to do the induction. I've never tried it myself, actually. But I have. And now we don't do that we just talk to the person for that induction too. It's just too relaxed for them. So you could do that if you wanted, and it would put them into trance. But now I just talked to them just through the so my only tool I have as my voice. So yeah, there are other misconceptions, though. Like, people think a lot of people that come to me, as amazing. People say to me, are you going to get me to cook like a chicken? I even had someone say that to me. Yesterday, I get at least one person a week saying you're gonna get me to cut like a chicken. And so I just normally reply, well, nine, I'm not gonna steal your kidney either. But you can laugh if you like. So, so a lot of people are worried that I'm going to control their mind, I'm going to tell them what to do. But it's nothing like that at all. I'm just the coach. It's all self hypnosis. And no one can be made to do something they don't want to do. So that's why when I see people, it's highly effective, because no one's going to waste the time and money to come to me if they don't want the change. So people that come to me are already motivated, they're motivated enough to spend the money, and it's very good money, and they're motivated to spend their time which is very valuable. So so that's why it's highly effective. Now, nearly it's, it's been very little in the way of challenges, to be honest, it really has, occasionally I might get someone who gets a bit stuck, and it's not getting the results. And so luckily for me, because I worked with so many clients, I literally for years worked with, you know, client after client from fishing and wanting to last thing at night, like five days a week, that's gonna give you a lot of experience in a very short time. And I had an I had a mentor, right, you know, who hit my back the whole time, who also I could turn to every second, which really, really helped. But when you work with an amount of people, you really get the experience and you know how to deal with any situation and how to troubleshoot. And so it to be honest, it's it was very, very rare that you do need to troubleshoot. But when I do it, what that means is that someone's not getting the result, maybe they've come to me, and they're just not quitting smoking. Or maybe they're coming to me, and we've worked in anxiety, and they're still anxious. So what's going on? Is this a part of them and their unconscious mind that doesn't want the change, there's a part of them in your unconscious mind, that's getting some secondary gain out of staying that way. And so skilled hypnotherapist will know how to work around that and, and how to overcome that. So there's my resistance there. And so I guess that's probably the biggest challenge is, you know, when I was new, and I had clients and things weren't going right, I'd be like, Oh my God, what do I do now what I do now, but my mentor was right there and then going through that experience, and then getting the results in the end as it just makes you just much better at what you're doing a lot more skilled?

And what would you consider your ideal client? If someone were to come to you, and ask you for some type of service? What's the type of clients you would say yes to and what's the type of clients you'd be like, No, you're not the right fit, go to a different hypnotist,

Someone who doesn't want the change in their life. So if someone inside it would really be, that's really not going to happen unless maybe they've got a spouse or, or a parent or a child who's booking for them because the parent or the child or the spouse wants them to change. And so it's just really a matter of just saying on that phone call to that person. Look, they have to want the change. Because if they don't want to change, it's not going to work. Because remember, it's not mind control, no one can make you do something that you don't want to do. So it's very, very important. That person wants to change. And as long as they want the change, it's going to work. So if someone said to me, I come here for smoking, but I don't really want to quit smoking, my wife told me I should come and say, Look, I can't help you, you have to want to change, you're just wasting your time. But to be honest, I really haven't had that experience. The most I've had is really just someone bringing up on behalf of someone else. And I think maybe twice I can remember to two situations where we did do the quit smoking and it didn't work. And then I discovered but they hadn't told me because they'd said yes, I want to quit and they've said well, I didn't really want to do it anyway, I just did it because of this or that just yet. But that's I think that's happened to twice in the last five years. So yeah, but my you know, it's really a non issue because people are just not going to waste their time and money if they don't really want the change in their life. If someone if someone had real issues, maybe they were very, very, very aggressive or a bit scary. I would turn them away but I haven't really had that happen either.

How has your business changed since COVID has happened? Are you able to do virtual hypnotism? Is that our Do you think? Or do you think now that you know COVID is kind of going down a bit. You're happier now that there's more people coming in to see if that's the case.

Yeah, I mean, it did get a little bit quieter in Sydney, because we've been in this great Sydney lockdown since June. So it definitely got a bit quieter in my clinics. But it was I was actually very busy with students. So it was it was a nice to have a little bit of a change there might you know, less time the clinic more time with students. So it's it's picked up in the last week it's picked up again, Mike, I'm pretty much fully booked now for the next couple of weeks. And I, I've always worked online. So I've worked online way before COVID. Because I've got an international business. And it's no different when someone comes and sees me face to face, or they Sydney online. The only tool I have for for for the treatment is my voice. So as long as they've got good headphones, and we can see each other and they can hear me clearly, it's just as good online as coming. In fact, there's probably a lot of benefits of being online because you're in the comfort of your own home, you're wearing headphones. So my voice is going into your ears. So I'm considered an essential service. So So I have been open throughout the lockdown. And I have seen big people face to face. Because it's an essential service for mental health.

And do you also play the role as a motivational coach? In a sense, do you think you may have to incorporate some more personal advice or some more non hypnotic suggestions, if you will, maybe guiding them in the right direction? Because, you know, maybe with smokers again, it's a new expertise, but maybe a smoker may want to switch with an electric cigarette or maybe use the patches sometimes. And you may have to give them some sort of philosophy that's not hypnotic to kind of suggest them not to do that sort of like what a coach would do. What do you have to say about that? That's very interesting.

Yeah, yeah, so definitely, I'm definitely also a life coach and a counselor because yeah, you're you're building that relationship with that person and I'm and I'm working with that person with what they need. So absolutely, a lot of that stuff goes into it so they can actually have a lot they can have a nice degree or a patch anyway and there's no need for them to have it because they walk out and they've got no cravings so it's really a non issue but absolutely i i am an instant but absolutely I am prepping them for post session on what they need to do to support themselves moving forward for for anyone that comes to me for whatever reason whether whether it's coming to me for to change their diet or whether they're coming to me for anxiety so yeah, I do a lot of that non hypnotic coaching, but as a non hypnotic or is it still hypnotic? I think it's still hypnotic anyway. So as soon as they walk in the room, I think they're in hypnosis. Yeah. So you're using like hypnotic strategies to work with them from the minute they come into the office before you put them into trance, right to the minute they leave.

Another question I have is has hypnotism ever helped you outside of hypnotism at all? Because you sort of mentioned there, you're always doing hypnotism so even when you're working with someone like me right now? Are you? Are you doing that too? Or?

No, no, I'm not. Um, has it helped me out? Yeah. I mean, yeah, absolutely. It has helped me out because, you know, yeah, I mean, it really, you know, you get a lot of benefit out of, you know, working with people constantly and trance. I mean, obviously, I'm always learning so much myself. It's, it's constantly learning. It's a really exciting industry to get into actually, because there's always so much to learn. And there's so many different techniques. And there's so many different aspects of it. I mean, I do what I do, but I haven't I haven't yet trained to do customer progression, hypnosis, and that's something I'd really love to do. I don't know how to do Hypno birthing, which I'd really love to learn. And I'm not a specialist in pain, hypnosis, I can do a little bit of pain stuff. I've dabbled in it, but it's not really my speciality area. So there's always so much I'm constantly learning and you learn you learn from your clients as well. So then you just growing that wisdom all the time. And, and that benefits all areas of your life that benefits your relationships, your children, I've got two children 16 and 13 meet during this work has been very helpful in how I'm, you know, my skills as a mother and how I'm raising my children. So, yeah, so it's amazing. Really, does that answer your question?

What do you think is the more spiritual take on hypnotism? How do you sort of take him to tourism on a more spiritual kind of soulful level? If you will?

Yeah. Well, I think a lot of the work I do with clients, they will often comment that three, a very spiritual approach. So you know, I'm working with people for many different types of things. And the mind body spirit connection, if you will. So, you know, sometimes people are holding on to other people's toxicity, for example, you know, I work with people to take back their soul fragments and give back other soul fragments. So there's definitely a spiritual element when I'm working with people. And people have sometimes when I'm when people were matched with me, they have a very spiritual experience as well. So people, people come into on all sorts of different experiences. So often people will have a session with me and went for an hour, and they'll think it went for five minutes, but they remembered every word, so they lose sense of space and time, that's a sign of hypnosis. But then they'll just say, like these incredible experiences that happen during that they were listening to me, but you know, things happen, like the lights flashing in their eyes, and the colors and all of this. So. So definitely, it is it is very spiritual, and very spiritual experience. I'm not sure if every hypnotherapist has that approach? I don't think so. But with the work I do, yes.

And what's the future of what you're doing now? Or are you planning on maybe writing more books, when you're planning on specialize? In more things? What specifically are you planning on specializing and then maybe, finally, get into your website, you know, the services that you provide, and what you kind of do on your website. So these last few minutes, that's kind of hit first of all, let's hit what you're planning on doing in the future books, specializations? And let's just look that into one question.

Sure, um, Jimbo, so if you look at my website, which is activate hypnotherapy.com.au, you'll see that I also have an online course coming out, which hasn't hasn't been finished yet. But it's, it's basically for therapists that want to learn more skills for quitting smoking and quitting vaping with their clients. So I've got that online course, which will be coming, which will be launched next year. And I, I'm going more, I've got my two clinics, but I'm going more into training and mentoring. So that's sort of that's my main project at the moment, building up the training and mentoring side of my business to teach clients to become specialists, internationally accredited and certified hypnotherapist with a professional body, internationally and nationally, and also to become specialist hypnotherapist and quit smoking and other addictions, anxiety and panic attacks and desired weight, and virtual gastric band. So so I'm going more into that area at the moment, but definitely in the future. I would like to get in, you know, do more training and different areas such as past life regression, and more training, are working with pain management, with hypnosis. So yes, it's really exciting.

Okay, okay. So when it comes to specific services, though, necessarily, is it more group or is it one on one? And what types of services are these necessarily? Is it only smoking per se? Or do you offer them General Services?

Okay. Yeah, no, so people can be for all different unwanted addictions and habits. So quit, quit smoking and that this the topics covered in my book, gambling, alcohol, drugs, quit smoking and food. So I do work with a lot of people for those five habits, unwanted habits, but that can be anything it can be no biting or shopping addiction. So any any unwanted habit or addiction, but I also worked me for with a lot of people for PTSD, anxiety, panic attacks, phobias, confidence, so really anything so people can become my clients because they're out of alignment, what they what they consciously want is different to their unconscious program. So they feel out of alignment. So if they're not feeling good, they're out of a moment. If they're feeling negative emotions, they're out of alignment, something's not right on an unconscious level. And so when people come to me, they might be feeling a bit anxious, they might be feeling a bit depressed. Whatever it is, we peel away the layers and then they come back. It's a process and they'll say I'm feeling a bit happier. I feel a bit lighter. And so we work we peel away anything negative that they're holding on Two, we heal anything that needs to be healed, we let go of anything that needs to be let go off. And we work towards what they want to achieve. And so that's why I call it the transformation program because it's very transformational. And so process, so really any any of those sorts of things, people come and see me for.

This was a great talk. And other any sort of final words. Any final takes? You would like to give advice?

Yeah, yes. So not so just, um, you know, just be mindful that often thoughts because thoughts become things. And some people think they don't have a great imagination. And what I say to people, you know, they might say, I've got no imagination. And I'm like, Well, you are so lucky, then. Because if you don't have a great imagination, you'd never be worried you'd have nothing to worry about, then I worry all the time. And it's like, well, you have if you can worry, then you've got an amazing imagination for how about instead of putting your amazing imagination into worrying about what could happen in the future, which is not going to probably not going to happen, and to using your great imagination to imagine what could happen that you would like to happen. So just be mindful of your thoughts and what you're using your imagination for.

Right? Um, Jimbo Paris is the Jimbo Paris show. Thank you again, Juanita.

Yeah, thanks, Jimbo.

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