Empowerment through Authenticity: Alex Dumas on Living with Passion and Purpose

Alright, how's it going? Everyone Today we have Alex Dumas. He is the CEO of Abundance Daily Coaching and basically he is focused on coaching people. He looks into interesting things like psychology. So a bit, Lots of interesting. Let's bring on Mr Dumas. Let's start having a discussion.

How are you today? Hey, good morning Jimbo, nice to meet you. I'm doing a battle, battle. Answer your question.

Alright, so tell me a little bit about who you are, what you're about and sort of what's your message.

Yeah, so I am a husband, a father. Those are most important things about me. I've been in the coaching space now since 2018 and born and raised in New York. I live now in North Carolina for the past few years and it's been an interesting journey of growing up as the young support children. My parents are immigrants from Haiti, learning.

I never really had Haiti, but I'm saying like, growing up as an American, haitian, like a first generation, with somebody old cultural West Indian traditions of like you know, children don't talk, don't speak up, don't express yourself, like what is the rules, or the rules right, follow them, be that, and also the American way of like be free and you can do whatever you want, and so kind of have these polar opposites of ideology, so to speak.

But I grew up a traditional middle class kid right, playing sports, riding bikes, hang with friends, chasing girls, all that kind of stuff. But I grew very insecure too of not expressing myself, of not really being sure if I fit in, am I really supposed to be here, do I belong anywhere? And that really caused a thought within me like all right, maybe I'm disconnected from people, maybe I really don't belong, I'm not accepted fully and I would find self-destructive things through drugs, through different addictions, to complete me or fill me, if that makes sense. And I share all of that because that foundation of not being disconnected, of being isolated or not feeling seen or not heard, not validated, actually implements a lot of the work I do now as a coach, when I'll work with people, when I work with leaders and being able to help them express themselves and tell their story and show up really powerfully in the world. So that's a bit about me.

Interesting, if I heard correctly. I mean, I heard correctly, but you're from the West in Z.

Yeah, my family, my mother, father. They both immigrated from Haiti in the early 1970s and they didn't know each other. They found each other in New York, fell in love, built a beautiful life together. My mother passed a few years ago and my dad's still here, but from they've been together. They were together since the 70s until she passed about eight years ago.

Now my only problem was wasn't there any special influence that your mother had? With influence, is you becoming, you know, the successful man that you are today?

Yeah, yeah, my mother's influence is definitely paramount in my life. I didn't necessarily love this back then, but I see now how those sprinkles have happened. She was somebody that would welcome a lot of people into her life where we grew up in the Catholic Church, so she was always inviting people over for like Bible readings and prayers and things like that. She was always the type to just bring up, strike up conversations with people.

I used to get embarrassed by it because, like I said, I grew up really I felt really insecure so I wanted to hide. I didn't want to engage with people that much. I didn't want to have any light shine shown on me. So this is really interesting that here I'm doing shows like this and podcasts and my own personal time and she was just always that person to kind of magnetize people and draw people to her. And I think that's a key influence that she's kind of passed on to me, where I tried to run away from that or reject that, but started to recognize like, oh, that's one of my gifts too, like I can just bring people together. I'm a strong community builder. I call myself a master connector and MC of sorts and that's one of the gifts she's given me.

Speaking of community building, you have a Bachelor's of Arts in Psychology. How do you kind of use that to help you with things such as sales and market.

Yeah, psychology helped me with a foundation for myself of I really went into that study to figure out, like what was wrong with me, 18, 19, trying to find my way in the world, and just kind of get some meats behind like what's going on with me, like why am I feeling the way I feel? And the way that I've been able to incorporate that in my practice has been really starting to use the analytics of it, because I think people don't, outside of the psychology problem, they understand like, oh, there's things like means and averages, like you know, and probabilities and things like that. And I don't project it on the clients, but my focus is really to help them gather data of their own success, to own brilliance, because it's easy to, especially when I work with like high performing people, right, entrepreneurs, small business owners, where it's, they're kind of in a go, go, go zone, right, just next thing, next thing, next thing. So, wait, wait, let's slow it down. Let's look at what's available for you, look at these opportunities and let's really gather up the data of how, what you've done and where you've been and what you've gone through, what you experienced. How does it gonna, how does it can help propel you right, and also there's a dark side to that too. Right, if I'm been successful, if I've been somebody who's been high performing, there's a dark side to that too and there's no way around that.

But just getting awareness to that, recognize that and be inauthentic with yourself, of like and this is kind of helped me back in the past me being so driven, me being so ambitious, has actually pushed away some relationships. I've actually rubbed people the wrong way. I've gotten, I've gotten in my own head about things. Maybe too much analysis, paralysis, all that kind of stuff instead of no kind of inspired actions, I call it. So you know, the psych background definitely helps me just to look at the deeper roots of like what's going on here and you know I'm not here to cycle, analyze folks and things like that but once it kind of connected dots of like, oh yeah, you know what I've always shown up this way, right, right, like I'll ask you, jim, but like, has there been like times in your life where you felt like man, I should be doing something, but maybe you've held yourself back or you felt like insecure about something, you know you doubted yourself.

And within that right, we start to look at, all right, well, how's my brain protected me? Right, that's all I really is. Right, our brains, our minds, protecting us from this outside stimulus, this unknown thing. And then, all of a sudden, we start to take small steps, small tiny actions. Right, If it was you know, whatever was going on in your life, we were working together. I'd be like, hey, let's, let's take a look at what was brought you here, was got you to this point, right, and we can kind of really backtrack that way and I start to create a new path that that hopefully makes sense for you.

No, it makes perfect sense. Again, this is an excellent thing you're doing, because almost everyone has a vision. They want to admit it or not, that's a different question. But you really raise an interesting point about, you know, sales improvements sort of, and kind of the culture we live in, the culture I think it's called hustle culture. Yeah, it's a lot about kind of jeopardizing relationships, jeopardizing the health, all for success, no light balance whatsoever. So you really do raise a big point of that. And how do you think that's an actual issue that I brought up? It's a real thing.

I've definitely experienced that in the past. You know, 2014, 2015. I was working in New York, I was building up a financial service practice and so living in Long Island, traveling to Wall Street or different boroughs to do meetings, recruit people, things like that, and it was just go, go, go. I would be on the train, grab a slice of pizza, not really taking care of myself, not really sleeping well, I'm energized, I'm fired up, I'm exhausted. At the same time, spending a lot of time away from my wife, my two kids, because I'm trying to make it happen, trying to get after right 5am wake ups, all that kind of stuff. And it was to my detriment. I mean, I'm glad I experienced that, because when I see it with somebody else, it's like, okay, this is where we're at right now, and then it's.

It's really a scarcity zone, right. It's like I'm going to miss out on something If I don't respond to this email. I'm going to miss out If I don't call. I don't pick up the phone on first dial, like, yeah, I'm available. Availability is important. Don't get me wrong, but I did not value rest, I didn't value contemplation, right, it was just. There's so much noise in my head, I'm just trying to get after, I'm trying to make this happen, and that was happening, or at least not at the speed that I wanted to. Have you ever had any kind of experience like that? Have you like been in its own, like got to get it? And you're just pushing, you're going uphill against the avalanche is what I call it.

Yeah, you know, I think you know I do that a lot, especially like even in in in academia, because there's times where I was procrastinating severely, I think that's just. I just got to cram this all last minute and it feels like I'm almost going in reverse Now. You know it's definitely tough. You know it does end up working out in the long run, but it usually doesn't leave a very good feeling, you know, and especially when you think about things like performance and you think about high level of not, you're just thinking, oh, my goodness, it didn't stop. But I don't know if I fully answered that. But what have you kind of bumped in?

personally. No, that's, that's a good, you know good answer for that, because you know you said a big thing about performing at a high level and when you think about people it could be in the athletic world, entertainment, whatever right, or just like our public figures it always looks like they're going a million miles a minute and some of them do but at the same time they also put a lot of systems in place. They put a lot of people in place to help them. There's somebody organizing for them, there's somebody taking care of these other details. So they, they've remained in their zone of genius and it's one of those classic things of not hiding but asking for help. And when we can get to that point, when entrepreneurs, leaders can get to that point, it opens up.

But it's also vulnerable thing because people it's it can be embarrassing. Like man, I'm a complete mess. On the other side, right, I'm, I'm buttoned up, I look good, I look great. But the things that people don't want you, you don't want people to know about you, are really the things that can help set you free and and help you get to that next level of improvement and growth. So it's, it's being honest with yourself. Like man, we're. We're in my struggling here. We're in my we're right. I need help with what and who can. Who's around me that I can trust with this and what I know can actually, who are smarter than me or more skilled than me. That's also another ego thing, right? Higher people who are smarter than you are. Surrounding yourself with people who are a couple of steps ahead, so that you can kind of catch up and also you. Let them be in their zone. They're thoroughbreds or race horses. Let them do what they do and you can do what you do best too.

I completely agree. But I also think you know a truly, a truly strong person can, you know, be vulnerable and you know, talk about the flow. I do think that takes a level of strength. It's easy to kind of just bottle up and try to look good all the time. Yeah, you kind of need to expose yourself before the and kind of going back to kind of you, what types of systems do you put in place to finally improve yourself and kind of get over your challenge?

Yeah, one of the things that's really been helpful for me is having coaches. Yeah, that's been probably like my cheat code, my Swiss Army night of sorts is having coaches and being in communities with people. That will encourage me. That would challenge the way I think, and my wife is, you know, super strong with that. That's kind of background, right. We've been together, for we've been married for 14 years in January together for 18 years, well, thank you, and you know, she's definitely one of the people who's a champion and cheerleader for me and also, like, think of like a football coach, right.

Sometimes the guy by the face mask like kind of wake you up, like you know what's going on, where are we at, and that's been incredibly helpful. And I put different things in place, just making sure that I'm intentional, making sure I hear it till, like the specific things on my calendar where I know if I'm watching something right, if I'm going to do a masterclass or things like that. Like this is kind of like more of a logistical, technical things like calendars have helped me. They serve me tremendously just to know where I'm at, because if I'm blocking off different things, having my alarm set for separate things and the key thing that's really been helpful, especially since the pandemic the height of pandemic in 2020, is making sure that I don't give myself computer fatigue. So if I used to go from like meeting the meeting and bouncing around for a while and I recognize oh, I'm right back in my New York energy of running to the train and hustling and bustling, like, okay, all right, give myself a buffer. You know, 30 minutes before call and after call, this is dead zone time. So if I need to eat something before I want to just read something or want to reflect or listen to music, get myself into state, get myself into my, to my peak state, I'll do those things, because it's tough to be like for black up for 10 to 11, 10, 11 to 12.

And until there's just carrying the next meeting to the next meeting and nothing's really getting solved, I can't bring my highest level of thinking, my highest level of creativity, to a conversation and now I'm robbing that person at that time. I've actually wasted their time because I'm not showing up at my at my best. And vice versa, right. If they're doing the same thing, they're not giving me their full, authentic attention. They may be thinking about the conversation they just had and then what they're going to be doing later tonight and we're going for Eden, right, and it's like no, no, we're right here, this is now, let's be here now, and that's been my one of my best. Systems like coaching's helped me do that, and also just little technical things have helped me do that too.

So I'm going back to your, your skill set here. What are some of your most effective strategies for both generating results?

Yeah, One of the key things for me is simply being with people and I know that's going to sound kind of corny or like you know what does that even mean? But just being present with somebody, having a conversation, being in different groups, being in different communities, being a person of service, right. I've definitely increased my social media exposure output in the last couple of years and I recognize the important thing for me is it's not really about me in the sense of how great I look, how impressive I'm trying to be, but really coming from a space of how can I be expressive, how can I transfer my enthusiasm to somebody else and then people will recognize that and I'll get messages all the time like man. Thank you for sharing this. I really needed to hear this man. What a this is right, on time and it's not from a place I'm trying to get anything I'm just looking for. How can I serve this person? How can I make a difference in having and inviting people to conversations, inviting people to different things that I'm doing and letting them be the ones to be like?

You know, I want some more of us and then we can have further discussions about that, but I think the key for myself and for maybe so many of your audience, is going to be like how can I connect with this person? How can I really separate myself from the pack of the noise of social media? It's loud, it's crazy. It's kind of like wow, ball rest, and you just kind of be like a whisper and that person's here and just like, really connect with somebody, really get into their world and you'll be somebody that they don't forget. Right, and really think of it as the long-term gain of you. Really approach it from this energy Like I've got to get this person that repels. It's like it's gross. It's the creepy guy in the club, right, you just lurk in.

It's gross.

It's just hey, I'm here to serve you. And if you really pay attention to what people are saying and the words behind the words, that's been a gift of mine and you know people respond to it, they resonate with it.

You mentioned, you know, paying attention. How do you kind of use that kind of identify the right target audience, maybe some type of product, some type of service?

Yeah, you know, a thing that I like to focus on is what they call it the psychometric. Some people might focus on demographics, where you might ask that same question Somebody else. You know my target audiences are men who are 25 to 35 and they earn a certain income level and you know, that's, that's all fine. I'm more connected to what, who. Somebody is right. Their way of being is just per.

I look at it like this. I wouldn't invite that person over to my house. I probably wouldn't want them as a client. So is this person fun? Is this person, this person, have integrity right? Well, they do the things they say they're going to do, already ambitious, already relentless. Where obstacles in life will knock them down, it may take them off their feet for a second, but they'll get back up.

My best work has been served with people who just have that level of tenacity and drive, and that is what fuels me, that's what excites me, because they're rampant about a level like now I'm coming up with them right, or they're me to me. They're matching each other and that makes for fun coaching partnerships. I'm trying to like pull a person and motivate them and kind of carry them. It's like I can't carry that far, but I can run with you, we can go side by side, or you, you beat a rabbit. Let me catch up to you. That's even more fun and exciting for me. So a lot of my best work has been with entrepreneurs, small business owners, executives.

My philosophy sometimes can be a shock to the system of like slowing down. They may you think of a high performing person. They think slowing down means the world's going to fall apart. I'm just going to be lazy and eat Cheetos and stuff like that. I look at it like no, let's slow down enough that before you send this email, where are you coming from with it? Is it like I'm trying to get some from you? Am I trying to stalk at you? Or am I talking with you? Am I collaborating with you? Am I doing things in my own life that are that are feed in my soul?

Right, I have worked with this one client and she was super high performing, like really after it, and then she expressed to me that she'd been like that her whole life. Her whole life. It just being the person to get things done, and that's a beautiful thing. And through one of our our work together one of the sessions, she was like you know, I don't really have any hobbies. Okay, well, what's something you really love to do, like, what's something that's been a passion of yours, what's something that's been excited for you? She's like, well, taking pictures. You know photography, all right. And from there she decided to create her own little Instagram page, and that made that sound like a lot like oh my God, wow, instagram page. But she found something outside of the work. She sounds something that she can use her lens of life to snap photos of and slow down to see things, to see beauty in life. And does it make her a better wife? Does it make her a better entrepreneur? I would venture to say so.

And how do you find the help to be a better?

Sorry, is it a question?

So how do you sort of create better brand identity?

One of the most fun things I like to do with people is just simply tell me your story, right. Tell me about your background, tell me about where you've been, your dreams, even the secret dreams, the dreams that you may have been embarrassed to talk about. You know, one time I was working with somebody who wanted to get into the coaching space and she had a pretty extensive military background. And she's having all these doubts and fears, like I don't know if I can do this, I don't know if I'm qualified, all these different things. And this is after she bit me down, her, her resume, of sorts, and so I slowed her down. I invited her to a game, right then, and they're live on the calls Like, hey, can I tell you about this person that I know? So I started reading back all of the things that she told me about being this go to person and all these different things, and she was stunned. She's never heard myself like that before. I've never experienced myself created like that before. I didn't recognize that.

So your question about, like the brand identity it's tapping in with those gifts Maybe we all have them. You know, you have this gift of a podcast and I'm sure there's several other things that you do. So how do I use it? How do I leverage that into the world? Because I think that's the thing that gets in the people's way, like, yeah, this is good, but who would pay me for this? Like somebody will pay for anybody will pay for anything. Right, if the internet has taught you anything, I've seen things for people who are professional cutlers. You have all these other sites like only fan things. Like people will pay for things.

So there's a way to monetize your gift in some, some capacity. But it's really about you being honest and authentic about the things that you think you bring to the table. It might be something so simple, or you Don't even acknowledge it at first. It's like, well, anybody can do that. No, no, no, no, not anybody. You have this opportunity. You have this ability right For me. I'm a very creative person. You might be like, well, that's very vague, but like when I'm working with people, I can see things. I can get to a level within them that they didn't even think about, because I'm seeing the world from a different place. I'm seeing things from what I call the field of possibility, and playing in that place is really fun. So where it comes to people sharing that and monetizing that. Being the brand is really the important thing, like what's your identity? Are you really locked in with insecure within yourself to be yourself, because that's what people are going to pay for at the end of the day?

I think that's what people are paying for. It just kind of helps the audience get more grasp of what's going on. Can you tell me a bit more about your business?

Yeah, my company is Abundance Daily Coaching and the premise of that is really looking at that, there's abundance for all of us. That's a key component for me that I've shared on my daily podcast called Love, serve, care that you're born with your life in abundance. And the work I do has been with other business owners, leaders, executives, and the big focus is on communication and two sides of communication. One, the internal dialogue, what we're saying to ourselves, how we are being with ourselves Super important, and it kind of goes back to your question about, like brand identity, things like that. And then the external communication, right, so I'll just throw this on you right now in your case. So here you are, you're Jimbo, and if you're having a thought of man, I'm not good enough, I'm not smart enough, I don't know people are going to listen to podcasts, I don't know people are going to watch your videos, I don't know if I'm going to be able to create clients. If you're having a kind of internal dialogue with yourself now, when you're going out into the world, when you're having conversations with people, you might be saying the words like the good words, but inside that inner feeling like, am I good enough? And it's okay to have a little bit of that. But when we're helping people change our lives, when I'm helping somebody change your life, I've got to be sold out. I got to be enrolled into what I'm doing, who I'm being and this being a actual useful service for somebody, not just because I need something. I don't need anything from anybody. I want to come from that place of I can really help this person and if they feel that and I'm locked in, then it becomes an easier conversation versus it'd be like you trying to sell me like hair cream, like I don't have hair. You know anybody who's listening to this audibly. I'm a bald man. Jimbo's got these beautiful locks. Like it would be a disconnect right. So I'm using that as a funny example. But it's really just why my work is helping people get what they want to be the best versions of the service, doing that and have a good time too, because that's the key component to.

I have this philosophy that if it isn't fun doesn't get done. And you mentioned about like procrastinating. I don't necessarily believe in procrastinating, because it's not that you're not capable, it's just that you found something else you'd rather be doing than this task at the moment. So I find ways to create games within some mundane things within the task that we don't want to do. But if we can find little opportunities to create a game or create something that's exciting within it, it's a little bit easier. You can bring a little bit higher value to that task or project than just all right, I got a crunch. This number got to go through the motion. I was too short to go through motions, so all you know, that's one of the words you know.

And again, you know. Once again you're very correct, because I think you know, at least for my bachelor's degree. You know, I was trying to get into this scholarship program. I felt like an absolute idiot. It took me about six years to graduate with my undergraduate degree. Okay, I was a very slow student and I dealt with a lot of the possibilities because everyone else just looked way smiley. So perhaps, you know, it was only until like the third year that I finally started to kind of change my mindset and get a lot more positive. But again, you know, I just again I had probably reading a lot of dyslexia and so it took me a long time to kind of make it into my own position and kind of with you. You know, were you always so certain or confident, maybe, in your intelligence and your abilities or did you kind of have to grow into that in order to kind of become this? You know this master coach that you will see.

Definitely not. It definitely took me a while to get out in high school. Well, even like through middle school, I was like a summer school kid, right. I just I struggled with math, I struggled with science and different concepts. I just couldn't understand. I just didn't get it. It just didn't connect with me. And even through college, I almost flunked out one year. It was my one solo year of going away to school, like I started off with community college and I went to a school in upstate New York and it was my first time being on supervised.

I'm 19, 20 years old, I mean, right, due to math, girls going crazy, I'm wild and losing my mind, depressed, homesick, all the above you can nearly flunk out. I had like a 1.8 GPA, which is like it's like dirt, and I turned things around because I found a little bit of purpose and you know I'll, you know I'm curious for you, right, you know, six years to get this undergrad. Was there like a different turning point for you? Was there like a moment or the? You said you sort of get positive with yourself and not feel like an imposter. Like was there a moment? Like you're like hey, you know what I gotta like, step this up. I'm better than this. I'm. What's being reflected on these grades is not who I am. Does that make sense?

Of course you know, I was broke in my parents' basement during COVID and I was like, look, I need to start a business. And that's when I started Demi-Dag radio station, the rock radio station. It slowly turned into this business, but then turned into that I was in this other program where I was supposed to make my make after dedicating about two semesters to what I ended up getting kicked out. So I switched between border for major. I've started a business now and suddenly I get into media and communication. So now I'm doing something which is my podcast, which I'm passionate about. I am further pursuing my goal with, you know, this new major, and suddenly I go from feeling depressed, feeling like garbage, to now feeling, wow, you know, I have a direction, I have a meaning, you know. So that's when I sort of had an update, you know. That's when I realized, because I just found something, that I was actually passionate about that downhill spiral.

Yeah, thank you for sharing that right, and you said the big word, right, the passion behind it. Like you found something that inspired you, that licked you up, and I would eventually say, if we were working together, like you know, at Jimbo, tell me about how that little spark, how that translates into different areas of your life. Like what, what else do you find passion? What else fulfills you and sustains you? Right, and starting to connect all these dots, like, wow, I have a lot of things in my life because I think what you mentioned before about like being an imposter, that's us doing. Like the social media life where we're looking at everybody's highlights, we're looking at everybody else who's so much better than us, who's ahead of us. Man, I'm so stupid, I'm so small. Right, whatever thoughts were having these disempowering thoughts, when we start to shift into you know, what am I good at? What do I love to do, what am I creative at? Those things are popping up all over the place.

You start meeting people randomly, right? These coincidences, these random, random happenings that go on in our life. It's not because our frequency, our vibration, is seeking out those things that are, are, are useful, that we're good at, right, um, you know the, the knowledge and those things have always been there. But now it's important to us is now. Oh, now I get to know. In my case, I like to work with really interesting people, with fun people. Well, guess what I get to bump? I bump into fun people all the time. They've always been there. But now my lens is looking at what is really sharp people who are really, who are excited to have interesting stories, and I guess I get to be with them.

It's, it's, it's a joy well, I would probably wrap this up. I'm interested to know what are some of these fun people? How are they sort of influenced you to further pursue your book for your research?

sorry, can you review that question?

I missed the first part so who are some of these fun people that you met, and how did they kind of influence?

oh my gosh. So this one person that comes to mind, this, this guy, his name is Steve Hardison. He's regarded as the ultimate coach. He doesn't give himself that title, a lot of people giving him that title and you know he really is. He's just somebody who lives life wild in the sense of what you and me would kind of consider like normal, construct rules, like he'll do things, just like there's been so many times like he just calls me up like out of the blue, right and that may not sound like a big thing, but right in this world, right in this new century, calling somebody's like oh whoa, can't you text me, send me a meme or something like that. Right and no, do things like that.

There's a lot of people in my world who we just have like interesting practices, people who take people on like journeys on, on hikes and things like that, and coach like in the woods. They're just unusual things where you would think, well, it's business type, you got to be buttoned up and you know we're going to be board rooms up and that's not the wrong with that. But I love those folks that just we're kind of like misfits who think outside of the box and are willing to just test things out and go beyond different boundaries and they have to find that like keeps things fresh and inspires me and shows me. Oh wait, that's possible. They're just being themselves. Like somebody coaches from an RV, they just travel around and do these different things. Man, that's cool. I don't necessarily would do that, but that's great that somebody is open to seeing what that looks like and just traveling, doing things like that. So I love people who are like that in my world and they, they feel me, they allow me to just be comfortable being me.

So you know well, you mentioned feeling comfortable being me. What is that like? Could you kind of go more in depth on that? Or maybe people with both should be able to feel more comfortable?

yeah, for me I think it helped. Like this context, when I was younger, growing up, in elementary school, middle school, high school, I had these two versions of me right at home in my neighborhood. I'd be very quiet, kind of reserve, and secure, all these everything's like I mentioned earlier. And at school I was loud and brash to class clown, doing whatever I could to get attention, and at that same time that also created resentment because, like nobody really ever got to know me, right, get to know the real me. I never could go deep with somebody. I've never had a serious conversation. Everything was always so it turned into a joke because it was relentless, like all, like non stop by, and I got to a point of, like man, I don't know, people are laughing at me or laughing with me, right, and then that brings up all these insecure feelings, right, the real inner side of me, like oh god, I'm scared. I'm scared a little boy. And so when I talk about being comfortable with myself, I still love laughing. I still love the humor is a big part of my life, a big part of my work too, and I also recognize that I can be serious, I can be deeply people, and I think when people meet me in person, they kind of get surprised, right, because you know, sometimes I can be a big personality and and just ramped up a lot of times. And and then you maybe like, wow, you're like really chill, like you're like more mellow and just relax. I'm like, yeah, and I'm fine being either. I'm fine like being like when I do speak him and I'm at events, like, yeah, it's time to ramp that up, right, this crowd is the energy I love being with people. And then there's all the times like I actually need like Solo time for me and there's nothing wrong with that.

I used to think there was something wrong with that. Or people would come up to me and it's like man, alex, you're quiet, like there's something wrong. And then I would. That would put an idea in my head like man, I'm quiet. I mean there's something wrong with being quiet. Oh, I need to, like you know, get crazy again and keep up the, the mass, the performance. So being comfortable in my hand with myself is really just me not being. I'm not here to perform for anybody, I'm just here to express who I am. In some moments that might be me Just being chilled. Whatever other times, it might be me being like super crazy, champion, raw, raw, dude and other times is just yeah, being deep and having these powerful conversations with people and they're all elements of me. There's no One size, alex, it's just me.

Take me, love me, leave me, whatever all right, so what's kind of the future of you and your business from? Also, is there anything else that I was in words you'd like to give to the audience?

Yeah, you know what it's.

Thank you for asking and thank you for having me on the show again and I appreciate you and what you're doing and Things like this are what I'm Definitely created more of the opportunities to share myself, you know, get on stages, virtual stages and in person stages.

That's definitely the, the vision of the business and where I'm going, where I think when people can get a real experience of who I am, what I do and sometimes I could be one-on-one and in this case it could be one too many I think that helps. Not only it obviously helps my business, but it just helps people in general, where they get to hopefully see a piece of themselves within my story and they feel Inspired to just be themselves and, I think, more people that are fully self-expressed, not hiding, not not putting on a mass performance. That helps all of us, and so that's just my goal to help people be authentic themselves and that creates the abundance, that generates the frequency of tapping into this endless stream of of wealth that's available for all of us and we you can get that and Like this good, especially for people calling the world too.

Last thing, though, is uh, how can we reach?

Yeah, great question. Thank you. You can reach me at alexdumascoachingcom. I have a free gift for y'all there. It's called this is audio recording. I did called everybody wins is 10 disciplines for win-win communication. So it was these different, some of these different principles that I've layered in within this conversation, but I kind of outlined them in More concrete ways. So these things like there's principles like generous listening is principles like presence, which is different, powerful questions that you can ask yourself, because I'm a big believer that the question we live into, the questions we ask ourselves, we ask ourselves really powerful questions and we can live a powerful life. So go to alexdumascoachingcom. We'll get your free download. There. There's more info about me and the work I do and opportunities for you to work with me, if that, if you'll call to that.

Thank you again, mr, do not be a pleasure. And I also like to say we are using the washrooms. I'll see you next time.

Yeah, appreciate you, jimbo. Thank you, brother, stay blessed.